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Andrea Gilbert

In The Presence of Grace

Interview with Andrea Gilbert,
An Appreciative Thought and Action Leader

By Ferne Kuhn

I first met Andi Gilbert when we served on the board of a Philadelphia based non-profit organization. From the outset I was struck by her ability to listen carefully to others, to contribute to the conversation in a value-added way, to synthesize the conversation and make recommendations for action in a timely and articulate manner. She successfully assumed leadership roles in areas where she did not necessarily have expertise, but was clearly committed to achieving the goals she and others had agreed to. In another context, when her administrative assistant at the hospital (which was in the midst of closing its doors forever) said, "I'm able to get through this because I have such a wonderful leader," I knew that Andi was someone special.

Throughout our conversations Andi revealed great clarity about her role and the particular gifts she brings as the leader of a Main Line Health, Bryn Mawr Hospital, a major regional hospital. The hospital, established in 1893, employs approximately 1200 staff and is a full service, community, acute-care, teaching hospital with 283 licensed beds. In speaking about bringing out the best in people and organizations, Andi spoke about her role as broker and facilitator of high engagement processes. She intentionally brings together multiple constituent groups such as physicians, nurses, and administrators; helps them figure out their mutual interests; and then aligns those interests to achieve the hospital's vision and mission. She recognizes that in many ways she has little control over the actions of the various stakeholders in her world, but she can provide the processes necessary to work toward the desired outcome. While bringing people together in a participatory process, and working to get multiple and sometimes conflicting needs satisfied, she is also very honest about what can and cannot be done, and what they can and can't control from inside the institution.

Andi believes that the key to success is building one-on-one relationships. She knows it is important to do a lot of fact finding. She does that by meeting with people, understanding their needs, enabling them to become more receptive to hearing from others and engaging in compromise. She sees group meetings as the place to set the tone and to communicate information. A lot of her work is a balancing act, brokering the needs of various stakeholders within the hospital and community, while keeping her eye on the hospital's mission and vision. She has learned over the years that while it is important to mobilize people to be involved and to be part of a decision making process, that, "It cannot be entirely democratic, because people want leadership." Along with that realization comes having humility, and defining and articulating a vision in concert with others.

A defining highpoint and yet very painful process for Andi was the closing of City Avenue Hospital in Philadelphia. The hospital had gone through a number of experiences of being acquired by other health care organizations. After trying for a year-and-a-half to keep its doors open and provide its much-needed services to the local community, the hospital's management and owners realized it was not possible. Andi had a leading role in bringing the medical staff together and engaging them in the process of transitioning services, patients, and staff to other hospitals, and closing the hospital down completely. To fully understand the importance of this is to know that during the year-and-a-half of stabilizing the operations following a debilitating bankruptcy, the hospital under Andi's leadership was able to reduce its losses by over 50%. Andi accomplished this by orchestrating political and medical staff support for a bold restructuring and service realignment strategy.

Creating a partnership with the medical staff and actively engaging them in the transition process helped assure the best outcome for all concerned. Many of the staff found excellent opportunities in sister hospitals, and acknowledged the psychological, emotional, and concrete benefits resulting from this kind of appreciative leadership. There was little anger at the end, but there was sadness. The partnering process made all the difference. In addition to ongoing support from her senior management, Andi was given public recognition for the way in which she oversaw the transition and closing of the hospital. "We were all in this together. Even though we closed, we think you are great!"

As I listened to Andi's story I realized that her success in the closing of a hospital was closely tied to her beliefs about change. She is an optimist and sees each new situation as an opportunity to learn something new. She does all she can to learn about new situations, whether they are mergers and acquisitions or other major changes, and figures out how to get people and the organization through the change. She sees it as her responsibility to facilitate and to help preserve and let go. While it was tough personally to go through the loss of the hospital and experience all the "stages of death and dying," she realized how real those emotions were for others, yet "I don't belabor things." She acknowledges that she moved through the stages more quickly than others do and then set about getting others in the change process moving forward.

When Andi came to Main Line Hospitals' Bryn Mawr campus, the hospital was experiencing ambiguous leadership and a real identity crisis. Andi's approach was to get to know and understand the organization by meeting with and talking to people at every level. She believes it is important to understand the nature of their work and to let them know they are valued and respected for what they do. She is also certain about the need to set clear expectations so people understand where they fit and how they can contribute. "Little messages mean a lot," so Andi meets people in their offices knowing they will be more comfortable on their own turf, rather than being called into the boss' office.

She believes that leadership starts with your own value system. It's who you are. As one who has always felt valued and well regarded, she knows the importance of conveying respect and regard for others Andi doesn't see herself as a great visionary. "I don't have a vast imagination and vision, so I pull people together and then create a vision. Is this picture exciting? Is it Realistic? Will it energize others? My talent lies in creating and facilitating a process ending in concrete plans. As the new leader of this hospital all my actions are under a microscope and I am learning how to be in that place and in this role. I stay abreast of what's happening in the world and tap into people who have good ideas and a vested interest in what we do-even people outside healthcare. It's important to have group conversations and appreciate the issues on a whole other level." She believes it is critical for leaders to be conscious of broadening their range and depth when seeking new ideas. Too often they rely on their peers rather than seek ideas from other parts of their systems to help craft the organization's vision.

When speaking about positive images, the spirit of inquiry, hope and inspiration, Andi stated passionately that her whole orientation is around being positive and creating hopeful images of the future. It's part of being an optimist: "It's who I am and how I am in the world." She said, "Inquiry is what I do." This is from the stories Andi tells about her experiences as a leader. She uses inquiry about people and processes to crystallize what she needs to know, synthesizes this data, and takes action. It's her modus operandi.

"Hope is essential. As a leader I have to create hope by making people feel that they are part of and fully invested in the process." She spoke of seeing an inspirational leader as one who pulls it all together, wraps it all up, and articulates a clear vision and hope for the future. She has come to understand how important this approach is, and how responsive people have been when offered positive images of the future. On her leadership journey she had has come to appreciate that the buck stops with the leader. She has learned the things she needs to do as a leader and what leadership means to other people. "People want to live and work in a democratic environment, they also want a leader to make the most of their collective wisdom and lead the way to achieving their vision and goals."

Andrea Gilbert's advice to other leaders is to touch people's lives, to deal with them with respect and with humility. In addition to the rewards of leadership, she also experiences the burden of having others depend on her. She has learned to lead incrementally through the process of leading. She knows one cannot be naïve. " It's never a slam dunk, one always has to look twice."

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ANDREA GILBERT | Andrea Gilbert is a Senior Vice President of Operations for Main Line Hospitals' Bryn Mawr Campus, a division of Jefferson Health System. Prior to assuming this role she was the Chief Executive Officer of City Avenue Hospital, part of the Tenant Health System. She holds a MHS degree in Health Care Administration and Planning from Johns Hopkins School of Public Health.

FERNE F. KUHN | Ferne F. Kuhn, M.Ed., is founder and principal of The Kuhn Consulting Group (KCG). Ferne has worked in a variety of organizations including small businesses, large banking and financial services companies, and health care organizations. She has a broad background designing, implementing and facilitating organization-wide change efforts, all with a clear focus on outcome and building client capacity.


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