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Bringing Out The Best
Interview with Evelyn Turrell,
Manager, Automobile Club of Southern California
By Joann Javons
What does it take for a leader to succeed
in today's corporate environment, a world of tumultuous
change, fewer staff, greater demands, less time? And
how does a leader focus on bringing out the best in
people while handling multiple demands, conflicting
priorities, more pressure than ever, and the responsibility
of managing a unit of 70 people? These were some of
the questions in the back of my mind as I sat down to
meet with a leader who represents a rare breed in corporate
America. Evelyn Turrell was hired as a secretary and
quietly moved into an influential leadership position
for a business unit charged with providing education,
training, and consulting services for a corporation
of 7,712 employees.
The Automobile Club of Southern California
(ACSC) is an affiliate of the American Automobile Association,
a solid organization providing services to America's
motorists for over 100 years. Today, ACSC is known as
an organization that provides responsive, top quality
customer service. ACSC focuses on living its vision
by adding new products and services to quickly meet
customers' changing needs. But that wasn't always the
case. About 15 years ago, the organization changed its
core paradigms-revamped work units and processes, developed
new products, and implemented a host of initiatives
to meet shifting demographics, new customer needs, and
the challenges of its competitors. Competitors? For
many years, the Automobile Club of Southern California
didn't even have significant competitors. But when that
all changed, leaders had to change.
Evelyn Turrell had always been functioning
as the "new leader," even if she didn't say
it. People who reported to her knew it. People talked
about her leadership approach. I first heard about Evelyn
from others. When the former leader of the education,
training, and development unit said, "We're looking
for an assistant manager for this unit. If you have
any recommendations, let me know." Out of 500 managers,
the name that came to my mind was "Evelyn Turrell."
At that point, I had only met her twice.
THE
TASK OF BRINGING OUT THE BEST IN HUMAN BEINGS AND ORGANIZATIONS
Some leaders do things naturally, even
without formal development, courses, or degrees. It
just flows from them. Focusing on the best in people
and knowing how to bring that out is what Evelyn Turrell
does naturally.
She sees the best in all performers, not just the outstanding
ones."One of the things that I've learned is that
I don't have to have a whole team of superstars. I look
at the solid, consistent performers and think how I
can tap into their strengths. I don't like the word
"weakness" because I'm really interested in
what they can do well; I want to build on that. For
example, someone may take a long time to get up to speed
on giving presentations but he or she may be very good
at a chunk of that presentation, so I always look at
what is possible to connect to." Terms like "deficiencies"
and "weaknesses" don't exist for Turrell.
She perceives only what is, what could be, and how to
align the best in her staff of 70 people.
"Is there a 'high-point moment' in
your career when you did this, can you tell me the story?,"
I asked. "Yes" she said, as her eyes lit up.
With excitement in her voice, she told me about someone
she hired years ago to work as her secretary. "This
young woman believed she would never be successful,
never go beyond working as a secretary, even though
she longed to become an instructor. While she passionately
wanted to become an instructor, she firmly believed
she would never move beyond her present job. I think
her belief was rooted in the low-income, low-expectation
culture she grew up in. She projected a somewhat angry
demeanor, was viewed as hostile, having a so-called
attitude problem. My challenge was to help her see the
potential she had, to believe in herself, to affirm
for her that she could do it. One of the ways I did
this was to give her more and more responsibility. She
grew from secretary to technical trainer to an instructor
position as her belief in herself grew. It's worthwhile
helping someone make their dreams come true."
This is exactly Evelyn's passion and secret
to her successful leadership style: seeing strengths
in people that they don't even see in themselves. "My
personal reward and recognition from any job has always
been tapping into my staff's strengths, seeing in them
what they couldn't see in themselves." The look
on her face was sheer joy as she said this. Her expression
turned wistful, "In this job I don't have time
for as much of that individual development of people.
I miss having the time to do as much as I want to."
Clearly this was her "high," this is what
gave her energy, what drove her.
Another example of recognizing potential
in others is demonstrated in Evelyn's approach to leadership
development. She hired a young man as an instructor
and instinctively knew his talent exceeded that position.
She actively mentored and coached him and went to bat
for him to get authorization for educational programs
to develop his knowledge and skills. "I saw someone
committed to the organization and developing him meant
the organization would reap the benefits." He quickly
grew from an instructor to a supervisor. Not only did
he quickly move into management, but after only four
years on the job, he won the prestigious Cheshire Award,
ACSC's highest award given to those identified as making
outstanding contributions to the entire organization.
"It's recognizing things in people that they may
not even know are there and trying to determine what
you need to do to hone in on those skills and help make
them a leader for the future," she said casually,
as if this were something everyone does easily.
Evelyn attributes much of her success
to the values her parents taught her as well as the
mentoring she received. "My parents were strict
although they would give flexibility when due. They
taught me to always tell the truth. They valued honesty
very much and so do I. Certainly it makes a difference
in how you tell the truth but I think telling the truth
always gains respect. I really couldn't function any
other way."
One of her former bosses stands out for the generous
praise and excellent mentoring she gave Evelyn in her
career. "I wouldn't be in this job today if it
weren't for her. She was the one who talked me into
accepting the Assistant Manager job (which later led
to Manager). She always gave me the recognition and
credit for my work to the executive level, as well as
generous praise, compensation, titles. I always felt
appreciated." Turrell said one of the things she
respected about this boss was that "you knew she
was always behind you, supporting you, even if you made
a mistake. Mistakes weren't ignored but her support
was still there and she helped you learn from them."
APPRECIATIVE
RELATIONSHIPS
Evelyn is known for her honest yet sensitive
approach in communicating with others. "People
let me know they feel comfortable talking to me. I am
committed to telling the truth and while I choose how
I tell the truth, I still am truthful. If I can't answer
something, I let people know why."
Evelyn actively communicates the organization's
goals and objectives to her staff and ensures that each
person is comfortable with them. She knows people will
make mistakes and views those as opportunities for them
to learn and grow. A feedback-rich environment can only
exist if people feel safe, especially when they make
mistakes. "If someone has made a mistake and is
bringing a serious issue to me, I make sure they don't
feel any retribution. If it's serious, that person has
already suffered enough anguish. They don't need punishment.
My role is to help them recover so they can move forward."
In conversations with other members of
her staff, it's clear that she conveys a distinct message
to her staff: " I care, I accept you, and I give
you the freedom to try." She is non-judgmental,
and focuses on helping others heal from a mistake to
be able to move forward. People feel both affirmed and
appreciated in her presence. Her style exemplifies Carl
Rogers' notion of "unconditional positive regard."
That doesn't mean she doesn't have issues
to address with her staff; she does. But the difference
lies in those things she feels important to maintain,
even when she has unpleasant feedback to convey. She
advocates:
- Be authentic, always be who you are and tell the
truth.
- Withhold judgment.
- Listen, reflect, and listen some more.
- Show empathy: Try to understand the situation from
the other person's perspective and experience.
- Model the behavior you want.
Evelyn believes that the leader's day-to-day actions
send a loud message to others."You can't just talk
about appreciating and accepting others. You must demonstrate
it yourself, you must model the behavior you want. I
try to show people in my attitude, my verbal and non-verbal
communication, the kinds of questions I ask, the way
I listen. Countless things are involved. And I always
put myself in the other person's shoes: how would I
feel if I were experiencing this?"
Those who work closely with her know that she has
an uncanny ability to zero in on what is important to
the other person. She consistently checks her understanding
by listening, reflecting, and listening some more. She
believes you can't do these things unless they are truly
important to you. Evelyn said, "Good communication
requires a commitment and a focus. It's not always easy
and often becomes complex through the frequently inaccurate
assumptions that we make. The more emotionally charged
the situation is, the more important it is to focus
on the communication."
When an organization goes through major changes in
products, services, and processes, those changes always
impact employees. When people are going through a change,
frustration can be high. "Sometimes people will
sound like they're just complaining and, at times, they
just need someone to whom they can vent their frustration.
But other times they may not be sure what they want.
It's as if they are banging their head against the wall
trying to figure it out. Or people may be angry at a
change and blame the next level of management. My role
is to connect with them, to affirm them, and, especially,
to re-affirm the power they really do have to make the
change work for them, not against them. It's the same
idea I mentioned earlier about seeing their potential
and drawing on it. I want to release their potential."
POSITIVE
IMAGE AND POSITIVE ACTION
Another key to Turell's leadership style comes from
a lesson learned from her parents: "My parents
were not quitters at anything...they never gave up.
They never stopped until they achieved their desired
outcome." Evelyn doesn't stop either. She always
finds a way to get things accomplished. In a large corporation,
bureaucratic rules and procedures can get in the way
of a leader's effectiveness. Undaunted, she sees new
ways to make it happen. Her mental image of a positive
outcome and a win-win for everyone is vital to her leadership
success.
For example, when an executive decision was made to
no longer allow her instructors to rent cars when they
were on out-of-state business trips, her belief in a
positive outcome led to a solution that had not occurred
to anyone else: recycle former corporate cars. Her new
way resulted in a win-win for all stakeholders.
In the department that Evelyn leads, the opportunity
to create positive images happens every day. She expects
her staff to continuously learn and she takes action
to encourage them to do so. Compelling positive images
come from the opportunity to continue to learn, exchange
ideas and information, listen to new ideas, and build
on those. Her focus on what can be done, on possibilities,
and commitment to positive outcomes infuses her staff
with the same spirit.
Positive images of the future of the larger organization
are expressed in its vision, mission, and new initiatives.
Evelyn explained, "I will never forget a three
day off-site meeting many years ago when our CEO painted
a picture of where we were as an organization, what
would happen if we didn't change, and how our future
might possibly look. He painted a very powerful image.
And he had a plan. I never forgot that experience."
Turrell not only seeks positive outcomes but she has
plans to achieve them. In her personal life, she recently
experienced what happened when she felt lost and without
a plan. Evelyn was hospitalized and when she was released,
she was confined to her bed for three weeks. "I
was so frustrated, not being able to get around. I began
to feel sorry for myself and started to feel down. And
then one day it hit me: where was my plan? So I made
a plan for all the little things I could control. I
got dressed everyday, put on some make-up, had the hairdresser
come in and fix my hair, had my nails done. I made lists
of things that were important to me. Just putting together
a plan for what I could do every day--even though I
was not able to walk-- lifted my spirits and got me
thinking in the right direction. That simple plan had
a powerful impact on me."
"I feel that positive thinking is vital for every
role in your life. As a leader, it is essential. Even
if your ship is sinking, paint a picture of the light
at the end of the tunnel. It's vital. Where would you
be without hope? That's how I was feeling when I wasn't
able to walk. I had to turn it around so I could see
the light at the end of the tunnel. You must always
help the people you lead do that, no matter what the
circumstances are."
THE
SPIRIT OF INQUIRY
Evelyn said with a great deal of emphasis, "I
believe there is some way to achieve anything."
You won't hear excuses from this woman."While my
parents always had rules, they also were flexible if
the situation warranted something else. They didn't
live in extreme black or white thinking. If the circumstances
suggested that an exception or a different rule was
appropriate, they did it. One size fits all, just doesn't
work."
She applies this lesson to work. For example, when
an executive decision was made to limit out-of town-meal
expenses to $25.00 per day, she knew that this daily
limit would not always work for her staff. She asked,
"Why not calculate the meal expense as an average
relative to the total number of days of the trip, instead
of on a daily basis?" After all, why would it matter
if someone's meal expenses were $30.00 one day and $20.00
another day, as long as the average for the entire trip
was $25.00 per day? The decision was changed, not by
breaking the rules but by raising the right questions
and persisting toward her desired outcome."You
have to have an image of a positive outcome plus the
persistence to make it happen. I believe there is a
solution to anything and I'm sure I learned that from
my parents." Her power is her commitment, persistence,
and drive to find the best solution.
She asks a lot of questions, yet people don't feel
interrogated by her. She' s soft spoken, with a twinkle
in her eye, a ready smile. "I love to listen to
someone and see the light bulb go on when they find
the answer to their own question. My greatest satisfaction
has always been to help my staff see things, solve their
own problems, discover potential they didn't know they
had. That's always been my personal reward and recognition."
Asking questions to help others release their own potential
comes naturally to her. A "telling" style
doesn't fit who she is. She invites others to engage
in dialogue to discover what can be done. "People
often don't say what's really on their minds in their
initial statements. Through inquiry and dialogue, I
can find what really is at the heart of the matter.
It just takes a lot of listening and focused attention."
Jan Turrell feels her previous career in insurance
claims taught her valuable lessons that prepared her
for her present position. "Years ago when I worked
as a liability claims adjuster, I learned how to negotiate.
Some thought our job was saying, "No," but
I never looked at it that way. I asked questions. I
was after a win-win so I learned that the way you said
something and how you got there was important."
She also learned how to deal with rules and procedures
early in her career. "When I was a supervisor,
I discovered how to use the system to achieve my desired
outcomes. I never broke the rules but I found out how
to make the system flexible, as the situation warranted."
She also learned how to deal with rules and procedures
early in her career. "When I was a supervisor,
I discovered how to use the system to achieve my desired
outcomes. I never broke the rules but I found out how
to make the system flexible, as the situation warranted."
THE
ROLE OF POSITIVE AFFECT IN BRINGING OUT THE BEST
When ACSC decided to consolidate six different training
functions, Turrell found herself thrown into the foray
with others trying to figure out how to achieve a new
organizational change. The directive had been given:
this group was to come up with a plan and make it happen
without further information or direction. Each of the
leaders from these separate training functions had been
working in silos, each in their own world. Now they
had to tear down the silos and build a new unit. Evelyn's
commitment to positive outcomes helped turn chaos and
negative feelings into a committed working group focused
on collaborating to achieve the objective. Time was
needed for feelings to subside, for new perspectives
to emerge, and for people to see the positive benefits
of consolidating all the training functions into one
unit. As Turrell recalls, "The organization saved
on duplication of resources. We could deliver a consistent
message overall. Once our group could see and feel the
benefits, we started to move forward. But it was vital
for us to internalize those positive results, to see
them, to feel them in order to make it all happen."
One of Evelyn's 'defining moments' came early in her
career. As she reflected on her expectations for herself
she said, "When I was growing up, my dream was
to have a loving family, a home with the proverbial
white-picket fence and so forth, so going to college
and having a career wasn't on my list. Even when I had
the chance to become a supervisor, it was okay with
me if I got the job or didn't get it. I still remember
when one of the senior managers who interviewed me for
that job asked, 'What is your motivation each day?'
I answered, 'my morning cup of coffee.' At that time,
I was not driven to have a career, I just wanted to
do the best job I could. Yes, I got the supervisor job
and later, the interviewers told me their interview
with me was the most refreshing interview they ever
did. That supervisor job was the turning point for me.
I loved the job. And it was during that time in my life
that I realized I would have to work for the rest of
my life. So, I asked myself, 'Why am I doing this?'
I wanted some kind of reward. I knew I was in it for
the long term. I'm happy with the results of that decision.
My career has been very rewarding for me and gives me
a great deal of personal satisfaction."
I asked Evelyn, "As you look back on your leadership
journey, is there any advice you wish you would have
been given that would have helped you along the way?"
It didn't take her long to answer. "When you're
in a formal leadership role in a corporation, it's always
very helpful to know more about the people above you
so you can be as effective as possible in dealing with
them. It would have saved me a lot of time to know early
on what was really important to those above me. And
especially their own leadership styles, how they functioned,
how they would react to different things, the subtleties
of their unique personalities. Helping me anticipate
some of the challenges I'd be facing would have saved
me time and allowed me to prepare my approach in a way
that would work the first time, without having to re-do
it. Each personality is unique and knowing more about
that person helps you create win-wins early in your
career that you can build on.
It's also vital for a leader to not get lost in the
day-to-day administrative tasks that inevitably will
come up in your job. Always keep your vision: that will
keep other things that intrude on a daily basis in perspective.
It's not the reports you have to get done, but the people
who are the leaders best asset. Bringing out the best
in your people is the best investment you can make."
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EVELYN
TURRELL | Evelyn Turrell's career
with the Automobile Club of Southern California began
more than 30 years ago. She became manager of the Education,
Training, and Development unit, Human Resources in 1998.
She obtained her AA degree at Lancaster community college,
and is a life-long learner. Evelyn lives with her husband,
John, in Lancaster, California, and has one adult son
and one grandchild, "Bubba", whom she adores.
JOANN JAVONS
| Joann Javons' background includes an academic career
and corporate Human Resources. She currently does OD
consulting and facilitates leadership development programs
at ACSC. Joann is a published poet, and a prolific writer
and speaker. She has served on the Board of Directors
of the American Society of Training and Development
(ASTD) and the Organization Development Network, Los
Angeles. She lives in Culver City, California.
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